Hate Crime? Love to see it Tried that way

LIONEL McINTYRE

 

Prof busted in Columbia gal 'punch'

The New York times today, has a piece about a Columbia professor that punched a woman, a fellow employee, during an argument about race.

The professor, who is black, had been engaged in a fiery discussion about "white privilege" with Davis, who is white, and another male regular, who is also white, Friday night at 10:30 when fists started flying, patrons said.

The punch was so loud, the kitchen workers in the back heard it over all the noise," bar back Richie Velez, 28, told The Post. "I was on my way over when he punched Camille and she fell on top of me."

The other patron involved in the dispute said McIntyre then took a swing at him after he yelled, "You don't hit a woman!"

"He knocked the glasses right off my face," said the man, who would only give his first name as "Shannon." "The punch came out of nowhere. Mac was talking to us about white privilege and what I was doing about it -- apparently I wasn't doing enough."

McIntyre had squabbled with Davis several weeks earlier over issues involving race, witnesses said. As soon as the professor threw the punch Friday, server Rob Dalton and another employee tossed him out.

"It was a real sucker punch," Dalton said. "Camille's a great lady, always nice to everybody, and doesn't deserve anything like this."

Davis was spotted wearing sunglasses yesterday to conceal the black eye. Reached at her Columbia office, she declined to comment on the alleged attack.

McIntyre was released without bail at his arraignment last night.

"It was a very unfortunate event," he said afterwards. "I didn't mean for it to explode the way it did."



So, sounds to me as though someone has a chip on their shoulder about white people.
So, what do you think? Hate Crime? Love to see it tried that way.  

Comments




  • They said he hit her so hard the staff in the kitchen heard it over the bar noise.. so he really waylaid her.

    Searchingtoo, 3 months ago | Flag

  • Searching -


    Of course there are some who want to perpetuate racial discord in this country. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have both made millions and gained much influence doing it.


    On the other side we have the KKK which are little more than the Ku Klux Klowns these days. The difference is that most of us have made the Klowns an object of ridicule while we have applauded Al and Jesse. It is time for both races to "pipe down" and get along.

    jstol3, 3 months ago | Flag

  • From my perspective, if this had been a white man sucker punching a black lady, would we even be having this conversation? I don't think so. It would clearly be labeled a "Hate Crime", and Jesse and Al would be all over it.


    Racism is by definition the unequal treatment of humans based on the specifications provided in nemo's comment. If Jesse and Al don't denounce this action, then they will show their true colors. Pretty simple, if you ask me.


    And, as to Searchings idea, yes, I think the woman should pursue charges based on a Hate Crime. She would qualify for "race" because race was being discussed, and as "gender" because she was a woman.


    I'm still having a problem understanding how a professional black man could sucker punch a woman, white or blackSurprised

    JDog, 3 months ago | Flag

  • Searchingtoo:


    You are correct that "some people need racism to continue".   They will take anything and make it a racial issue.   But the other side of that is that there are still many people in this country who simply ARE RACIST!   Both exist and people on the Right & the Left point to examples on the other side as if pointing out "one of thiers" makes the negative effects of "thier side" go away.


    It doesn't work that way.

    nemokc, 3 months ago | Flag

  • Interesting question.


    I would think it would depend upon the state law and how it defines hate crime.


    For FBI purposes, hate crime is defined as:



    ...is a criminal offense committed against a person, property, or society that is motivated, in whole or in part, by the offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, or ethnicity/national origin



    I would think it would come down to intent.   Did he punch his co-worker because he views her as a "white oppressor" or did he punch her because he had too much to drink and she disagreed with him? 


    (And yes, I know that many on this site will automatically assume it's because he sees her as a "white oppressor" and it is very possibly true....but it could also easily be that he's just a lousy drunk and would have punched anyone disagreeing with him regardless of skin color. Which would make it just an assault.  If he did it because he sees her personally as an "oppressor', it would be a hate crime.


    Whether or not the assault is followed up as a hate crime, she probably has a great many civil options to follow up with as well.  ANd they do have him dead to rights on the assault charge.


    Really interesting question.  Would like to see him tried for it as a hate crime just because he hit a woman!  Even if he's not convicted of the hate crime,  the investigation would make his life hell!


     

    nemokc, 3 months ago | Flag

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