A Question for the fence sitters and Obama supporters...

During the third 2008 Presidential debate Mccain finally confronted canidate Obama about his associations with Weather Underground founder/domestic terrorist William Ayers and his associations with Acorn the community activist group that has continued legal issues and acusations of voter fraud. Obama responded by asking us to judge him by who he chooses to seek counsil from on various issues.he went on to name several benign persons from both sides of the political spectrum. Everyone seemed to think Obama had put his history of radical associations behind him.........evidenced by his election to the Presidency in Nov of 2008.

 Obama made the case that Ayers,despite holding campaign functions in his home,serving on 2 Boards together and being neighbors was not a close friend and Obama was merely eight years old when Ayers bombed a residence,the Capital and Pentagon.Obama discounted his association with ACORN by stating that he had only represented Acorn in one lawsuit relating to a "motor voter" registration bill designed to get people to register to vote when they renewed their drivers license.Never mind the millions of dollars ACORN had contributed to Obamas various election bids and the millions of dollars Obama has been able to guide ACORNs way in his postions of power.....Obama put these concerns to bed rather handily.

Obama also escaped any serious bruising by his association with Rev.Jeremiah Wright the Pastor at Trinity Church in Chicago.Rev.Wright preaches black liberation theology and the church featured Obama more than once in its publication The Trumpet. Black liberation theology takes a MARXIST view of the world and considers "white christians"as illegitimate because they have not suffered and "real persecution"as blacks have and christians did in the days that Christ walked the earth. Obama spent TWENTY YEARS in Wrights church,was ,married by Rev.Wright,his children were baptised in the church and Obama titled his autobiography "Audacity of Hope" in honor of one of Rev.Wrights sermons. Obama renonced Rev.Wright during 2008 after faithfully attending Trinity for 20 years when media scrutiny of the churchs radical views became a problem for the Obama campaign.

So much for loyalty and sticking by your friends and beliefs...huh?

Obama was forced to go on the defensive because a pattern was emerging that would seriously derail his election bid.If the voting public was able to analyse his past associations it would be easy to assume Obama gravitated to radical marxist communist and his stated agenda of redistribution would be seen for what it really is......a radical leftists attempt to move the country in a direction MOST Americans do not want to go.

For reasons that seem to defy logic Americans embraced these weak excuses and were willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt.Was it the prospect of racial healing Obamas campaign repeatedly espoused that innoculated people from the realities of the facts we knew about his past associations? Was it "white guilt",the desire to PROVE America had grown beyond the days of segregation? Was it simply that Obamas campaign and soaring rhetoric was a unmistakable contrast to MCcains fumbeling,cluttered ,unfocused trainwreck of a campaign?

Who Knows? All we know is that Obama was elected to the office of the Presidency with a very thin record of accomplishments and a very questionable record of associations and beliefs.To go back and rehash the facts we knew BEFORE the elction will not serve any purpose other than to note that THE RECORD SHOWS Obama has a past that cannot be described in any other way but to say that he has a predisposition to gravitate and embrace radicals and radical ideology that teeters on the brink of a marxist,socialist and at worst....communist outlook.

I say we take Obamas advice and look only at HIS OWN WORDS and WHO HE CHOSE TO SURROUND HIMSELF with since taking the oath to defend OUR Constitution from ALL enemies foreign and domestic.

Obama in his OWN words:

2001 WBEZ.FM Radio interview: Obama tells us that as "radical" as the Warren Court was he feels "in many ways IT WASNT RADICAL ENOUGH". He goes on to tell us that the Constution "is a charter of negative liberties which tells us what the Government CANT DO TO US but doesnt state WHAT IT CAN DO on our behalf" That may sound nice to some that ascribe to the thinking that politicians in Washington know better how to make decisions regarding our life than WE do,but to the person that believes in TRUE liberty and freedom to live as we wish,it should send shivers down your spine! Obama talks about REDISTRIBUTION and SOCIAL JUSTICE,both are TENANTS of Marxist,communist and socialist radicals throughout history. I provided the link so you can here his marxist views IN HIS OWN WORDS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EcmpUHCHkk

From his book Dreams of my Father: " I chose my friends carefully.The more politically active black students,the foreign students,the chicanos,the MARXIST professors and structural feminists and punk rock performance pullets."

"Politically active black students"?Like The black Panthers?The Black Panthers that cite the tenants of MARXISM and MAOISM as the path they use to achieve SOCIAL JUSTICE?............Now when we consider Obamas OWN WORDS and the people HE TELLS US he garvitated to..., Does a pattern yet again start to emerge?Lets look at some more quotes from Obamas books that show the similarities in HIS thinking and those of Black radicals....again IN HIS OWN WORDS.

"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."-

It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."-

"I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela."-

Is it fair to say Obama ,in HIS OWN WORDS exibits a bit of a resentment to whites? Not only that could you say that in his list of "carefully chosen friends he identifies with radicals,leftist and MARXIST"?Does his association with Rev.Wright and Ayers take on a different level of insight into his character when we use them as a backdrop to OBAMAS OWN WORDS?

Obamas Advisors(The people HE CHOSE to surround HIMSELF with):

Ezekeil Emanuel: Obamas health advisor IN HIS OWN WORDS will show the "death Panels"acusations WERE NOT unfounded of simply hyperbolic rhetoric from the right.

Emanuel"Substantively, it suggests services that promote the continuation of the polity-those that ensure healthy future generations, ensure development of practical reasoning skills, and ensure full and active participation by citizens in public deliberations-are to be socially guaranteed as basic. Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia"


Citing care should be DENIED""who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens" such as those with dementia.

Zeke is the brother of White House Chief Of Staff Rahm Emanuel.Rahms reputation of being an aggressive stategist who is not afraid of undrhanded,btrutal tacts to acheiev political goals.

Van Jones,Green jobs advisor: Johnson is an admitted COMMUNIST and former member of MARXIST social justice group STORM(Standing Together to Organise a REvolutionary Movement).Storm favored Marxism and embraced Maoism in their mission statement. hmm more communist marxist black radicals that have the ear of the President.Jones was also on the board of the Apollo Alliance and this is where the associations to radical leftist and the control the have over our government gets really scary.Harry Reid even publically thanks the Apollo Allaince for crafting the stimulus bill.The Appollo Alliance has close ties with the AFL-CIO,SEIU, ACORN and other radical community activist groups.

Now it all comes full circle. We started this blog talking about the weather underground founder that has close associations with Obama.Would it surprise you to hear that a founder of the weather underground also served on the board of the Apollo Alliance with the communist radical Van Jones? No? Would it surprise you that its NOT Williams Ayers?.......Its not- its Jeff Jones the Co-founder of the domestice terror group The Weather Underground. What are the odds our President and liberal leaders of our government have such close ties to these leftist radicals? Its obviously no coincidence! The leftist radicals of the sixties have infiltrated our government at the highest levels and are in the process of putting the finishing touches of their STATED life long goals.A socialist government! healthcare is the final piece to their puzzle. If enacted into law it will put the country OVER the brink of financial ruin and force the masses to adopt their Marxist agenda to survive.The tactics they have displayed come right out of Saul Alinskies book Rules for Radicals.Alinsky is admired and quoted by almost all the people Ive written about in this post....including Obama.

This post is long and there is much more to the dealings and associations of these people to Obama,DIRECTLY and indirectly.i urge all of you to take this post and do your own research....this just begins to scratch the surface of the interconnected world of radical leftist that are now in positions of power in our country.We have to come together to stop this.Republicans,democrats,independents and libertarians-we are on the brink of losing our freedom to a bunch of radical liberal elitist that think they can make the choices that affect our lives better than we can.

 

Comments




  • Nemo,why do you assume I havent talked to many people of all colors,creeds and ideologies?Because I dont bow at the alter of Obama? How shortsighted of you.


    Now your argument has been made to try to get us to assume that Obama Only knows these people and seeks the advice of many.Ok.......then why does he implement policies that reflect the very wishes of these radicals if he is not one himself? Who was he speaking of when he told us HE thinks the Warren Court wasnt "radical enough"?" HE" IS Obama, and  HE told us what HE believes in his own words!HE told us in 2003 that he favored single payer healthcare(when HE thought HE was only talking to union officials)!HE had told us many time that HE believes in wealth redistribution! HE told us HE gravitated to the radicals,marxist and leftist! His DOCUMENTED HISTORY tells us that HE chose the people that surrounded him-HE told us HE chose them "very carefully"!


    You case about your son having a solid base of a father speaks well of you but YOUR OWN ADMISSION that Obama DIDNT have the support to guide him in the right direction doesnt bode well for Obama.You ultimately admitted that he CHOSE WRONG because of a lack of adequate support structure! Fine-whatever the reason he CHOSE his associates doesnt change the fact that he is surrounded by radicals that wish to change the foundation of this country!


    Answer this: I know America is not perfect but its foundation-The Constitution,is a Non compromisable base for our freedom and liberty and Obama has promised "to fundementaly transform America" are you willing to turn over your rights and freedom to the political class of this country and go quietly into the night?

    Odessacon, 7 months ago | Flag
  • Ode:


    Actually he explored a lot of ideas that I didn't like between 15 & 22. But as you have pointed out, he had me to bounce ideas off of.  President Obama didn't have a father to do the same with.  (And I will tell you that no matter how much influence a grandparent can have...it's not the same thing.) 


    He was also exposed to a great many influences & differing political thought than you would approve of growing up.  He has sat listening to me talk politics and life with REAL socialists, real communists, gays, rednecks, Muslims, police officers, convicted criminals, business owners, Jews, ministers, etc.  


    I am guessing from the fact that I have two grandchildren that my many gay friends didn't make him gay, but they did make him more open to understanding someone else's lifestyle.  Talking to a communist doesn't make you a communist. 


    I take great pride in giving him that exposure.


    I think it's great when any one exposes themselves to all manner of people.  Not because I want them to "influence" anyone, but because I want everyone to understand where others are coming from.


    There are many people in this world who relish the diversity of the world even if they don't agree with everything the other party says.  You can still learn from them.

    nemokc, 7 months ago | Flag
  • Nemo,was your son compelled to gravitate to black liberation theology?Did he attend a racist church for 20 years? Did he serve on 2 boards with a radical domestic terrorist?Sounds to me like he delt with his ethnicity in a far more constructive manner than our President did.Kudos to you for the role Im sure you played in bringing about a well adjusted young man!


    Ayers,Rev Wright, Both Jones(Jeff and Van)are Radicals turned acedemics not the other way around.They brought these ideologies with them have stated their allegience to the ideology in the past few years.They are not reformed or even repentant.To say they came to these radical ideas simply by happenstance through the course of an objective acedemic persuit of answers to tough questions is the largest leap youve made so far! The sad thing is,I think you know better you just refuse to see the writting on the wall and will defend Obama no matter what FACTS you see.

    Odessacon, 7 months ago | Flag
  • Ode:


    It is also a leap to postulate that Obama is STILL conflicted about his race.   You are discussing a book that talks about his coming of age in the late 70's/early 80's as a mixed race child raised in Indonesia as a child.   That does not mean that he has not "grown up" since that time.  That is your "leap" from reality to wishful thinking.


    It was a book that was written to explain the difficulties of being mixed race at that time.   Keep in mind that Obama was born in a year where his parents marriage was illegal in several states.   We have come a long way since then.


    As the parent of a mixed race child, I GET THIS.  IT'S REALLY VERY SIMPLE!   You are making much more of this than there really is.  Outside influences make this a very difficult thing for an adolescent (especially one without a father) to deal with at a difficult age.  (Weren't you conflicted during adolesence?)  


    My son has had to grow up constantly answering the question:  Are you Black or are you Mexican?   The negative reaction to his mixed blood (whether true or perceived) is increased when you are followed in the toy store by the manager until he realizes that you're there with the white guy.  And then it's ok?  How sick is that?  (And that did happen to us in an Overland Park Toys-R-Us in 1988.)


    As to all of these so-called Communist advisors, I have tried to explain on multiple occasions that there are many academics in the position of advisor to the President.  Academics by the very nature of their profession are forced to look at ALL options to a problem.  They discuss them and show both the pro & the con of any given issue.   Many of them actively refrain from making a judgement after discussing the different sides because thier goal is not to provide answers to their students but to teach them to think!


    The problem with this is that when they are put in a partisan political arena, there is a great deal of written material that can be taken out of context by the other side and used to "prove" that they are communist/socialist/marxist (pick the current descriptor of the day for the Right).


    It doesn't mean in any way that they support the program they have discussed.


    And your comment on JFK's famous line proves to me that you really are not listening with any kind of unbiased ear to what Obama says.   He has repeatedly made comments on public service and the importance of it.   Often paraphrasing JFK's line.  (Even Super-Conservative Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann's son has heard him say this.   That's why he's teaching school this fall in an inner city classroom in a program that his mother claims is an "Obama re-education program" designed to indoctrinate the youth of America into communism.  What's wrong with THAT kid?)


    BTW:  If you asked my son today, some 20 years later, he will tell you proudly that he is "MIXED".  It has become a source of pride to the younger generation to have parents that ARE NOT caught up in the issue of skin color.

    nemokc, 7 months ago | Flag
  • Nemo,I NEVER siad Dreams of my Father was a "racial rant".I just pointed out that you can easily see Obama is conflited about his race.Thats quite a leap.


    You used to tell me that you didnt care what I thought,you said that you commented on my post to set the record straight for the lurkers and readers out there.What changed?


    I have no doubt you could come up with somthing but I grant you that Obamas associations are very hard to overcome.Especially when you look the culmination of all of them and the long record of communist ,marxist statements IN THEIR OWN WORDS.

    Odessacon, 7 months ago | Flag

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